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Building a house in Ukraine
« on: 14:16 28-May-2013 »
Just to say I've re-energised my dormant blog and hope to describe the process of building a house here in kyiv. The blog is v old and was started pre-Kyiv awareness. I hope I have enough time to keep it contemporary...

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Re: Building a house
« Reply #1 on: 19:59 28-May-2013 »
No basement? Just a crawl space?
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Re: Building a house
« Reply #2 on: 20:04 28-May-2013 »
No basement? Just a crawl space?

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Re: Building a house
« Reply #3 on: 05:47 29-May-2013 »
VCO and I are actively looking for some land to catch, kinda a insurance policy for when, not if but when, our side of the ditch becomes too over run with tourists and small rental units. If and when we build, I can guarantee you it will have a full basement and be built to my Florida hurricane standard. All utility services will come from the basement. I have learned a LOT from finishing out the empty shell we bought. LOL. Most of the learning curve was done the hard way in regards to workers and 'master workers'.

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Re: Building a house
« Reply #4 on: 09:00 29-May-2013 »
No basement but look carefully and you will see the house is built into a slope... the main entrance is therefore at the upper level (sleeping space - 3 beds and two bathroom and utility) and you will go downstairs to the ground floor open plan living room and kitchen (plus store and bathroom)

All topped off with an accessible flat roof for incubating more greenery.

 
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Re: Building a house
« Reply #5 on: 11:06 29-May-2013 »
No basement but look carefully and you will see the house is built into a slope... the main entrance is therefore at the upper level (sleeping space - 3 beds and two bathroom and utility) and you will go downstairs to the ground floor open plan living room and kitchen (plus store and bathroom)

All topped off with an accessible flat roof for incubating more greenery.

We call it a walkout

Interesting to see the difference in construction. People who think one type construction is good for different regions are incorrect.
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Re: Building a house
« Reply #6 on: 11:55 29-May-2013 »
Well, its concrete up to level 1 then "Ceramablock" as they call it here - 380mm laid lengthways - plus insulation, vp and then a render. Floors and roof concrete. I like concrete.

Ground floor u/f heating - rads to level 1. Also have a neat French wood burning stove to cosy it up in winter.

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Re: Building a house
« Reply #7 on: 14:08 29-May-2013 »
Well, its concrete up to level 1 then "Ceramablock" as they call it here - 380mm laid lengthways - plus insulation, vp and then a render. Floors and roof concrete. I like concrete.

Ground floor u/f heating - rads to level 1. Also have a neat French wood burning stove to cosy it up in winter.

Infloor heating via Glycol? I was going to do that with my garage pad in Canada, but too many dumb Canadians messed up so they will not do permanents for that.
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Re: Building a house
« Reply #8 on: 13:12 03-Jun-2013 »
Work progresses... the walls commence!

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Re: Building a house
« Reply #9 on: 13:48 03-Jul-2013 »
The neighbours are revolting  ::)

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« Reply #10 on: 14:07 03-Jul-2013 »
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Re: Building a house
« Reply #11 on: 14:26 03-Jul-2013 »
No problem.

I may - at the end - give a broad brush costing of the items as that is the most difficult aspect at times.. working out budgets.

The target though is $500 psm shell complete - watertight.



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Re: Building a house in Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: 09:18 22-Aug-2013 »
Another update...

The peasants are revolting: http://kievlife.co.uk/?p=180
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Re: Building a house in Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: 10:18 22-Aug-2013 »
Ace - thanks for all your posts & blog -

If you put together a cost break down at the end that would make my millenium.

Out of curiousity, in my experience, a concrete structure requires input/design by a Structural Engineer {in US a PE stamp would be required for this type of construction, as opposed to a simpler wood structure, which can be designed by a non-professional, up to a pre-defined # of sq. ft.}  A relatively simple concrete structure could be designed by an Architect/designer and checked/signed off on by PE/SE of record. The size of your retaining wall indicates that your house would most likely fall in to the latter category sans the intention to use the roof as some type of vegetable garden  :o {u r officially Ukrainian now}

Is Ukranian building design primarily by Architects? Seems counter to the notion that Engineers are masters of the concrete world which Ukraine has deep investment in to.

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« Reply #14 on: 10:33 22-Aug-2013 »
It was fully designed by a structural engineer and architecturally designed by me (with the help of an International architectural company).  8) We had proper topo and geological survey as it is on a slope and we had no idea of the ground conditions.

The engineer ended up doing the foundations and then he evolved into the overall contractor although we are now employing specialists direct - underfloor heating - and a single company used to doing shop fitting for the finishing.

Current all up price for the 230 sqm is running at $809 psm inc finishing and (some) service connections. This will rise as I need to bribe GASK pay for my commissioning.

We started in late April - target for moving in is November.  ???

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