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Offline Glyn Thomas.

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A family in Ukraine
« on: 12:01 18-Dec-2016 »
If you immerse yourself in Ukraine the longer you are here the more you will realise that most guys end up marrying a Ukrainian girl. Give it a few years and bingo! You have a child ? apartment ? car ? small dog and can look forward to the in-laws coming around.

So, if you got married to a Ukrainian and intend to stay in the country for a long time, your spouse will help you to comprehend the ?mystic Slavonic mentality?. Though the urban middle-class has been taking in western values gradually, the vast majority of residents (especially in the countryside) are only aware of European/American lifestyles by watching movies and TV soap-operas.

The Ukrainians are very family-conscious. And that is a double-edged sword. On the one hand family members tend to look after each other, but historically this has developed into nepotism that extends throughout all society. Top-range politics, business and even ordinary personal problems that need to be sorted out are powered by ?blood? and marital links. So, to feel comfortable here you will need to have either a partner plugged into Ukrainian reality or be happy instead to reside in the expats? community.

If you have a stable job and the will to survive the niggling problems that abound, Ukraine is not a bad place to raise your kids, adapting them to the local peculiarities. On the other hand, if you wish they were brought up in classical European or American tradition, it might turn into a real task in Ukraine. Ukraine is still between West and East, trying to sit down on two chairs at one time.

The language may seem to be the main obstacle both for your spouse and children to socialize here. Only a limited number of local housekeepers speak foreign languages and kids of premium+ class mostly are being taught it from very childhood. That complicates communication with the neighbours, the ?playground? community, service providers?.etc. To exchange useful practical advices, to entertain socially and to communicate issues involving children, the robust Expat female mini-communities cannot be underestimated.

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Re: A family in Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: 18:14 18-Dec-2016 »
I have a child, apartment, farm, car and even the small dog now but not many in-laws, thankfully, most of 'em went to Israel long ago. The MIL is enough. The mystic-slavonic mentality is quaint at times but if you are right, ace. If you raise children here, it is a real challenge to instill a moral compass, a sense of responsibility, and a rational view of the world, as these are deeply lacking for the most part in the minds of their peers.

My wife and I are like most parents. We just have a few circles of long term close friends and several have children too. Being social in Ukraine requires going to public places which I don't recommend doing frequently unless you particularly like being surrounded by rude mobs.

A quiet rural life is possible here, especially with no property taxes and cheap land. Homeschooling isn't crazy if you look at the reality here. Schooling is an 19th century institution that is pernicious to begin with anyhow and the economy doesn't need most college grads now as it is. I want my daughter to know how to survive because in the west and here, most children today will not have a career, with AI and automation coming online. 

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