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Ms Zaitseva's father Vasily Zaitsev did not mention the victims in his only comment on the crash caused by what eye witnesses saw as his daughter's reckless driving.
He also sought to pin blame on the VW Touareg that Ms Zaitseva hit before her car careered into people waiting at a pedestrian crossing, even though footage appears to show the driver of this car acting correctly after moving forward on a green light at a junction.

'It is a tragedy for our family,' he said. 'She had been driving for two years and never had any violations' - a claim contradicted by a local MP who is also an Interior Ministry advisor.

'The girl was sober. There was another girl, her friend.'

Not mentioning those killed or wounded, he said: 'My child has not eaten for 24 hours.

'They did not let us see her, she was locked in jail immediately.'

'She was hit, do you understand? Her car was completely destroyed. The car was moving after the hit.

'How was that Touareg driving - it is not clear why it hit her this way?'

Gerashchenko, revealed: 'During last two years the Lexus driver has been caught eight times by Kharkiv traffic patrol for violating traffic rules.'

This involved speeding, jumping red lights, and violating parking rules, he said.

But the maximum she was fined for these transgressions was ?14.

If I were one of the men in the families of the deceased I would cut his tongue out before I cut his balls off and used a screwdriver and hammer on his skull.
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Frack they have witnesses and a video of her running helter skelter down a long stretch of road, and a vid of her running the red. EVERYONE says they guy was in the GREEN and he was free to go. OHHHH his daughter has not eaten? Too Fraking bad. If they let this bitch off there is gonna be a huge outcry.

This is 2nd degree manslaughter pure and simple. Not that it matters here.....
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This really sets me off because degenerates pieces of slavic poop like her are a daily deadly threat in Ukraine and the fact that Ukrainians accept this (neither State justice or vigilante) just makes me think Ukrainians deserve everything they get.

I keep having fantasies of a bolshevik like social movement where all the pedestrians decide to destroy every Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Land Rover on the roads and murder the occupants.

Daewoo Anus taxi drivers too.

The vast majority of Ukrainians should never be allowed to drive a car and I cannot understand why the EU allows these animals to drive there.

Something we agree on!  Now how do we get this party started?
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Frack they have witnesses and a video of her running helter skelter down a long stretch of road, and a vid of her running the red. EVERYONE says they guy was in the GREEN and he was free to go. OHHHH his daughter has not eaten? Too Fraking bad. If they let this bitch off there is gonna be a huge outcry.

This is 2nd degree manslaughter pure and simple. Not that it matters here.....

Seriously, I hope this a catalyst and they burn her and her father brutally as an example to "elites" like this. Any trip on the road is harrowing and it has to Fraking stop or Ukrainians are truly irredeemable and should be left to whither and die like Russia. At any least there need to be mobs of pedestrians making random attacks with bricks and firebombs on "people" like who act like this.

Soldiers with automatics at the police checkpoints in the way to Kyiv today. I CANNOT understand why hundreds of thousands of luxury cars driven by completely degenerate criminals are not being seized and sold abroad for the war effort. Any resistance should be dealt with ruthlessly and lethally. These disgusting people in Ukraine need to have soldiers with automatic shoved in their and their children's faces, their noses rubbed in their poop and taught how to behave like human beings. And millions of Ukrainians must get on a bus and banned from driving or otherwise there can't be civilization here. No rules, no civilization. 

Nothing short of a decade of occupation like with Germany and Japan would be able reform these savages, I'm afraid.
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Frack they have witnesses and a video of her running helter skelter down a long stretch of road, and a vid of her running the red. EVERYONE says they guy was in the GREEN and he was free to go. OHHHH his daughter has not eaten? Too Fraking bad. If they let this bitch off there is gonna be a huge outcry.

This is 2nd degree manslaughter pure and simple. Not that it matters here.....

Seriously, I hope this a catalyst and they burn her and her father brutally as an example to "elites" like this. Any trip on the road is harrowing and it has to Fraking stop or Ukrainians are truly irredeemable and should be left to whither and die like Russia. At any least there need to be mobs of pedestrians making random attacks with bricks and firebombs on "people" like who act like this.

Soldiers with automatics at the police checkpoints in the way to Kyiv today. I CANNOT understand why hundreds of thousands of luxury cars driven by completely degenerate criminals are not being seized and sold abroad for the war effort. Any resistance should be dealt with ruthlessly and lethally. These disgusting people in Ukraine need to have soldiers with automatic shoved in their and their children's faces, their noses rubbed in their poop and taught how to behave like human beings. And millions of Ukrainians must get on a bus and banned from driving or otherwise there can't be civilization here. No rules, no civilization. 

Nothing short of a decade of occupation like with Germany and Japan would be able reform these savages, I'm afraid.


These are harsh words from you, but need to be listened to.

Yes the Ukrainians need a Fraking wake up call, they NEED to grow some balls. If not, then just call the Kremlin-based midget and invite the little Fraktard and his cronies over for Fraking dinner. If this girl(read: dumbass slut) gets off I would not be surprised to see someone go Postal on her ass as well as her goat dick sucking father.


Hi frank how ya doin??
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Frack they have witnesses and a video of her running helter skelter down a long stretch of road, and a vid of her running the red. EVERYONE says they guy was in the GREEN and he was free to go. OHHHH his daughter has not eaten? Too Fraking bad. If they let this bitch off there is gonna be a huge outcry.

This is 2nd degree manslaughter pure and simple. Not that it matters here.....

Seriously, I hope this a catalyst and they burn her and her father brutally as an example to "elites" like this. Any trip on the road is harrowing and it has to Fraking stop or Ukrainians are truly irredeemable and should be left to whither and die like Russia. At any least there need to be mobs of pedestrians making random attacks with bricks and firebombs on "people" like who act like this.

Soldiers with automatics at the police checkpoints in the way to Kyiv today. I CANNOT understand why hundreds of thousands of luxury cars driven by completely degenerate criminals are not being seized and sold abroad for the war effort. Any resistance should be dealt with ruthlessly and lethally. These disgusting people in Ukraine need to have soldiers with automatic shoved in their and their children's faces, their noses rubbed in their poop and taught how to behave like human beings. And millions of Ukrainians must get on a bus and banned from driving or otherwise there can't be civilization here. No rules, no civilization. 

Nothing short of a decade of occupation like with Germany and Japan would be able reform these savages, I'm afraid.


These are harsh words from you, but need to be listened to.

Yes the Ukrainians need a Fraking wake up call, they NEED to grow some balls. If not, then just call the Kremlin-based midget and invite the little Fraktard and his cronies over for Fraking dinner. If this girl(read: dumbass slut) gets off I would not be surprised to see someone go Postal on her ass as well as her goat dick sucking father.


Hi frank how ya doin??
:-D

Doin well thanks. Fully agree with the ascertations about this slut and her dickhead father. If I was a family member of any of the victims I'd get my gun and go hunting... there is this nice hollywood movie 'the accountant'... shows how go get the job done.

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And of course it was caught on tape.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Skip ahead to the 2:13 minute mark.


https://youtu.be/_RXk7LB52C8
« Last Edit: 21:42 21-Oct-2017 by AkMike »
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This video makes the story very confusing to me.  It appears that a car runs a red light and enters the intersection and hits a car that apparently has the right of way.  The resulting collision caused the pedestrians to be injured/killed.  The stories I read implied that the heiress drove into a bunch of pedestrians and killed them.  This is quite contrary to what I visualize in the video.

Am I missing something?


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Nope You've got it all now. The media just condensed the story a tad.
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Good example of why people despise and are critical of the media.  Anyone with a single brain cell would realize that none of the drivers of the vehicles involved in the collision have any control over their vehicle after the point of impacts.  Just look at all the hate posts in this thread that resulted from media reports that implied she had control of her vehicle and simple ran over a bunch of pedestrians.

I quit watching network media (USA NBC,ABC,CBS) over 20 years ago when it became apparent they manufacture news and politicized their reporting.  For many years I substitute CNN, and now they are so political I have moved to FOX (agreeably conservative), BBC, and now have added OAN (One American News).  OAN has a conservative commentary, one benefit I have found is that once you set aside the political commentary, while FAX and others spend all day on the same stories, they continue to give news of what else is going on in the world.  I get so tired of CNN and FOX spending all day almost in a loop reporting the same damned story all day and night.

I don't know how well distributed OAN is generally, but Verizon/Frontier has it available on their cable network.  Just an idea if someone wants to snoop around for a different news format.

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Olena Zaitseva, a 20-year-old student from Kharkiv, whose car plowed into a crowd of pedestrians on a sidewalk, killing five and injuring six people including a pregnant woman in Kharkiv on Oct. 18, was arrested for two months with no right for bail by a court in Kharkiv on Oct. 20.

The court hearing started with a surprise: The prosecution brought in evidence that Zaitseva was driving under influence of opiates when she hit the crowd.

Previously authorities said that Zaitseva was sober at the moment of the crash.

Defense attorney Yulia Kozyr claimed the test results couldn?t be allowed as evidence and said opiates could come from the sedatives that Zaitseva took to calm down soon after the accident.

Prosecutors submitted the latest analyses to the court, but the judge refused to consider them as an evidence.

Prosecutors demand to put Zaitseva in prison for 60 days as a pre-trial restriction, as the suspect could have fled the country or tried to influence the witnesses of the tragedy, victims or their families.

Kozyr said Zaitseva?s health was very poor, that she suffered from severe headaches, and asked the court to put Zaitseva under house arrest until the next hearing.

?She is a young woman who is only starting her life. And the fact that she will never forget those horrible events is already the most severe punishment for her,? the defense attorney said.

Zaitseva was passing a crossroads in her Lexus RX 350, ignoring a red light, when she hit a Volkswagen Touareg. The crash threw her car towards the sidewalk, where it swept through a dense group of people waiting to cross the road.

The defense attorney said that the second driver was to blame.

Zaitseva is the adopted daughter of Vasyl Zaitsev, a prominent Kharkiv businessman, and CEO of the Ukrenergochormet company.

Zaitseva in court refused to give any explanations about the crash, saying only that she ?was really sorry that people were injured.?

?I really hope that their families will finally accept financial help from my family. That?s all that I am thinking about now,? Zaitseva said.

Kozyr said the car crash ?a lesson for Zaitseva? and said she won?t drive a car ever again. Previously Zaitseva?s stepfather Zaitsev told journalists that she had never violated the traffic rules. However, during the court hearing, Blokhin said Zaitseva had violated road safety rules six times within the two years since she was granted her driving license.

The lawyer claimed that prosecutors? accusations as well as their demand to put Zaitseva in prison for sixty days as pre-trial restriction baseless and two severe for ?a young woman of such poor health.?

If found guilty, Zaitseva could face up to 10 years in prison. The driver of the Volkswagen Touareg is a witness in the case.


https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/kharkiv-driver-killed-6-arrested-without-bail.html
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How can it be that the records of the golden child's traffic tickets are not erased yet?

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Good example of why people despise and are critical of the media.  Anyone with a single brain cell would realize that none of the drivers of the vehicles involved in the collision have any control over their vehicle after the point of impacts.  Just look at all the hate posts in this thread that resulted from media reports that implied she had control of her vehicle and simple ran over a bunch of pedestrians.

I quit watching network media (USA NBC,ABC,CBS) over 20 years ago when it became apparent they manufacture news and politicized their reporting.  For many years I substitute CNN, and now they are so political I have moved to FOX (agreeably conservative), BBC, and now have added OAN (One American News).  OAN has a conservative commentary, one benefit I have found is that once you set aside the political commentary, while FAX and others spend all day on the same stories, they continue to give news of what else is going on in the world.  I get so tired of CNN and FOX spending all day almost in a loop reporting the same damned story all day and night.

I don't know how well distributed OAN is generally, but Verizon/Frontier has it available on their cable network.  Just an idea if someone wants to snoop around for a different news format.

It is not a matter of who had control over what vehicle. It is a matter of who caused this tragedy by reckless driving.....

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If bribing is an issue it will cost this dickhead father big time and even then there is no guarantee they will get away with it as the case is too prominent and too many dead people involved...

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If bribing is an issue it will cost this dickhead father big time and even then there is no guarantee they will get away with it as the case is too prominent and too many dead people involved...

If the Dad can get her released even for just a few days and things look that bad for his daughter, she will be whisked off to Russia. 
Hmm...  Interesting medical decision, sedating a patient opiates right after an auto accident. I don't think that has been a usual first recourse for a sedative, for decades.  Any expert opinions?