Author Topic: Is it possible to claim my wife and daughter on my US taxes?  (Read 695 times)

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My wife and daughter are Ukrainian citizens and don't have social security numbers. Will I be able to claim them on my taxes?


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I don't think you can, per this:
https://www.1040.com/tax-guide/taxes-for-families/who-can-you-claim/
You might not have to pay taxes on money that you declare as a gift up to $14,000 per person, which is the gift exclusion, for 2017.  In 2018 it goes to 15,000 per person. 
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/frequently-asked-questions-on-gift-taxes#5

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I don't think you can, per this:
https://www.1040.com/tax-guide/taxes-for-families/who-can-you-claim/
You might not have to pay taxes on money that you declare as a gift up to $14,000 per person, which is the gift exclusion, for 2017.  In 2018 it goes to 15,000 per person. 
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/frequently-asked-questions-on-gift-taxes#5

Thanks. I clicked it and saw they can get an  Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN.) So I looked it up, here's the page explaining it:
https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/obtaining-an-itin-from-abroad


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Hey here is some fun reading:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/ukrain.pdf

Tax Treaty with Ukraine

Offline Remington

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My US tax accountant told me to leave the SSN blank as I had legal dependents.  You can do the same and if IRS have questions, you can show them your marriage, daughter's birth certificate and a proof of them living with you.  I have been doing it for 6 years until my wife got US residence permit and SSN.
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Hey here is some fun reading:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-trty/ukrain.pdf

Tax Treaty with Ukraine

It is interesting (for us).

I don't think any Ukrainian government official actually is aware of this or cares.   

I read it all; I shouldn't have; I'm retired. 

For Ukraine it's just something they signed to get money from the U.S. - they forgot about it the next day.

Sloppy writing:

ARTICLE 25 Non-discrimination
1. A citizen of a Contracting State shall not be subjected in the other Contracting State to any taxation or any requirement connected, therewith which is other or more burdensome than the taxation and connected requirements to which a citizen of that other State or of a third State, who is in the same circumstances, is or may be subjected. This provision shall apply to persons who are not residents of one or both of the Contracting States.


Should Say: "You small-brained and corrupt monkeys, don't discriminate against people and charge them money because they are foreigners.  And if you do, we will beat your potatoes with a stick made in the USA."


But thanks to Fraucha; it is useful and worthwhile to look at. 
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Offline Ted

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My work here is done then.

Offline Reggie

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My work here is done then.

Actually that was a great post; it can be of use to people if they study it.  100% great answer.
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My work here is done then.

And we can return to our platter of salo and a hammered dulcimer live performance.

Pol Pot can get his own salo.