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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #15 on: 10:04 22-Mar-2018 »
While it all is still fresh try to request and collect the video camera records along the way they drove you and from the police station (though the latter could be quite hard if they are locals).

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #16 on: 10:58 22-Mar-2018 »
Thanks for the support guys.  It's with a lawyer now, I will update what happens, but hold back on the media campaign until I get the nod from the lawyer.

As for the sceptics, I'm not really bothered.  Everyone's experience is different.  I know what happened, I have no reason to make it up.

VGera - do you mean you think there might be CCTV footage?  I've never noticed any cameras about the roads, but then again I haven't really been looking. 

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #17 on: 11:08 22-Mar-2018 »
You mentioned it happened somwhere in the center. If not traffic cams (still need to check if videoprobki.ua and other livecamresources cover the place), most of the public places (shops, cafes and offices) used to monitor their entrances and cover parts of the streets.
But private DVR's memory is usually limited to a recent 2-4 days record. So, not much time to act.
« Last Edit: 11:10 22-Mar-2018 by VGera »

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #18 on: 13:13 22-Mar-2018 »

@ Kyle.

Send someone (preferably not yourself) to check if there is a 'facebook' (photos) of the cops of the cops that work at that station; sometimes posted in the lobby on the wall.   Check to see if the station has a social media site where you might be able to ID some of them. 

 
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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #19 on: 18:40 22-Mar-2018 »
i know in cherkasy the police wear body cams hire lawyer and demand the videos. what are the true odds all 4 cameras not working

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #20 on: 20:19 22-Mar-2018 »
i know in cherkasy the police wear body cams hire lawyer and demand the videos. what are the true odds all 4 cameras not working
Hmm. You might probably not know but the body cams are OFF by default. To turn the can on the officer has to press the button. The odds that any of them wanted to record their "business" I estimate as low as 0.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #21 on: 12:57 10-Apr-2018 »
Just given up on this, total waste of time. Clearly the police here are free to kidnap and rob at will.

Ironically I got my company registration through last week. That can go in the bin now. There's no way I could follow through with investment here, the place is lawless.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #22 on: 13:00 10-Apr-2018 »
Just given up on this, total waste of time. Clearly the police here are free to kidnap and rob at will.

Ironically I got my company registration through last week. That can go in the bin now. There's no way I could follow through with investment here, the place is lawless.

Yup.

The place has these risks.
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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #23 on: 14:14 16-Apr-2018 »
I saw one of the b*st*rds yesterday on vul. Ivana Franka.  The one who had my right arm up my back the whole time.  Brought the whole experience back to me.  Unfortunately I was going past on the tram and was unable to get a photo of him.  But I will.  He and the others must be around the city every day, they won't avoid me forever, and once I have good clear photos of them all, then I'll sort this in my own way.  Revenge is a dish best served cold.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #24 on: 14:53 16-Apr-2018 »
I saw one of the b*st*rds yesterday on vul. Ivana Franka.  The one who had my right arm up my back the whole time.  Brought the whole experience back to me.  Unfortunately I was going past on the tram and was unable to get a photo of him.  But I will.  He and the others must be around the city every day, they won't avoid me forever, and once I have good clear photos of them all, then I'll sort this in my own way.  Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Email me his photo if you get it.   Let me know how else I can help.

Just Tweeted this to the U.S. Special Rep. to Ukraine who was suggesting everything is hunky dory for foreigners in Ukraine.  Hope you get some justice bud.



To Poroshenko and NABU also:

« Last Edit: 16:22 16-Apr-2018 by Reggie »
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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #25 on: 21:26 16-Apr-2018 »
Thanks Reggie.  I've fired off an email to this lot...

www.euam-ukraine.eu/our-mission/about-us/

They're saying all the right things, let's see how effective they are.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #26 on: 10:32 17-Apr-2018 »
Thanks Reggie.  I've fired off an email to this lot...

www.euam-ukraine.eu/our-mission/about-us/

They're saying all the right things, let's see how effective they are.

Well they were less than useless.  The authorities are really taking police corruption seriously!!  Seems like the only way to deal with this is to deal with it myself.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #27 on: 11:10 17-Apr-2018 »
... but hold back on the media campaign until ....


Isn't it already the time? Or you still want to do some behind-the-stage moves?

Sad, but usual ways to find justice barely work here.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #28 on: 11:37 17-Apr-2018 »
Originally I was holding back lest it might compromise any legal action, but since none of the authorities are interested, I'll deal with it in my own way.

I want to get good, clear photographs of them first.  They are still "on the beat" around the city, I know which area of the city they work in, I will get the photos. Then we'll go to town.

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Re: Advice on taking a case against the police
« Reply #29 on: 19:26 19-Apr-2018 »
Thanks Reggie.  I've fired off an email to this lot...

www.euam-ukraine.eu/our-mission/about-us/

They're saying all the right things, let's see how effective they are.

Well they were less than useless.  The authorities are really taking police corruption seriously!!  Seems like the only way to deal with this is to deal with it myself.

Seems I may have been prematurely harsh on these guys.  After initially telling me they couldn't help, they have got back to me and told me that they can't usually get involved in situations like this, but can they have more details about the incident.  So we'll wait and see...