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David Rochlin:
Russia has deployed Iskander missiles near Ukraine.  They can be either nuclear or conventional.  This is intended to pressure the US which announced intent to exit the Arms Control agreement intended to limit such weapons, but was violated by deployment of Iskander. 
But, Ukraine is on the threshold of being able to possibly defeat a future Russian land invasion.  So this is also to make sure Ukrainians and American and EU allies know what happens if Ukraine wins. 

Fraucha:
The best part of Ukraine winning, even though the will be Ukrainian losses, is Russians dying, and many of them will be in Russia. Maybe many in Moscow, and St. Petersburg......maybe a little midget.....

Danno99:

--- Quote from: David Rochlin on 21:41 17-Jan-2019 ---Russia has deployed Iskander missiles near Ukraine.  They can be either nuclear or conventional.  This is intended to pressure the US which announced intent to exit the Arms Control agreement intended to limit such weapons, but was violated by deployment of Iskander. 
But, Ukraine is on the threshold of being able to possibly defeat a future Russian land invasion.  So this is also to make sure Ukrainians and American and EU allies know what happens if Ukraine wins.

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IN what way is Ukraine in a position to win in a real tussle with RU?

Q: Would the US, after accepting defeat in Afghanistan, plow into a war with Russia to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine?
A: Probably. OMG imagine the weapons systems flying off the shelf.

David Rochlin:

--- Quote from: Danno99 on 02:33 03-Feb-2019 ---
--- Quote from: David Rochlin on 21:41 17-Jan-2019 ---Russia has deployed Iskander missiles near Ukraine.  They can be either nuclear or conventional.  This is intended to pressure the US which announced intent to exit the Arms Control agreement intended to limit such weapons, but was violated by deployment of Iskander. 
But, Ukraine is on the threshold of being able to possibly defeat a future Russian land invasion.  So this is also to make sure Ukrainians and American and EU allies know what happens if Ukraine wins.

--- End quote ---

IN what way is Ukraine in a position to win in a real tussle with RU?

Q: Would the US, after accepting defeat in Afghanistan, plow into a war with Russia to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine?
A: Probably. OMG imagine the weapons systems flying off the shelf.

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The number of very effective troops Russia has, may be 120,000.  While Russia's Army is huge, their well trained special forces and crack units are limited.  They have to be divided, largely between Crimea and the vicinity of Donbas.  Some of the better troops may be positioned in various other hot spots and bases. 
The Ukrainian Army, and volunteers thwarted some of Russia's ambitions like to take Odessa and Mariupol, in 2014, despite being poorly trained, and with the exception of volunteers, poorly motivated, and ill equipped .  Since 2014 the Ukrainian Army has been better trained, enlarged, better equipped and many units have better leadership. Motivation at least for the regular Army, is improved.  Ukraine's ability to conduct anti-tank warfare is greatly improved by various missile systems and portable launchers. 
Ukraine's great weakness, perhaps a fatal weakness is that Russia has air superiority and Ukraine's only chance against Russian Air power will be ground to air missiles and portable launchers. 
Ukraine probably cannot take back Mariupol and perhaps not Donbas, in a future conflict.
But, if Russia invades, Ukraine may be able to repel an invasion, next time.  In fact, if Russia invaded, Ukraine, then Ukraine's Army might be able to invade Russia and find Russian territory poorly defended.
On the whole, Russia's weakness is that they are spread out too thin, their forces dispersed to deal with all manner of slow conflicts.  Russia's supply lines would be really stretched out in an invasion and they could not supply a lengthy conflict.  Russian doctrine assumes early use of nuclear weapons.  But, can they do that, especially if Ukraine invades Russia?

UKUA:

--- Quote from: David Rochlin on 06:58 03-Feb-2019 ---. 
Ukraine probably cannot take back Mariupol and perhaps not Donbas, in a future conflict.


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Pardon? Am I misunderstanding your above? Mariupol is very much part of free Ukraine and has been since 2014 when the Ukrainian forces regained complete control of Mariupol. The city has, for now, become the provisional capital of the Donetsk oblast.

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