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Paying taxes
« on: 20:48 30-Jan-2019 »
If you are in Ukraine on a TRP, and work online for a company in another country (not Ukraine), and you have your wages payed into your home country?s bank account, where do you pay tax? Your home country or Ukraine?
« Last Edit: 20:57 30-Jan-2019 by James1 »


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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #1 on: 04:20 31-Jan-2019 »
Home country is my thought on this, since the wages were not paid to you in UAH nor received by you in Ukraine. You may be physically here but the wages were taken under your physical control in another country. If you withdraw that money while in Ukraine from your bank you are bringing money INTO Ukraine and I can't imagine even Ukraine taxing you on your gift to the country.  Is the company a Ukrainian company? If so, then I suspect you would have to pay Ukrainian taxes.....

Mind you this is this just a guess, but the only one that makes sense to me. It's like receiving your Social Security or other non Ukrainian pension, it is NOT sent here nor paid by Ukraine hence your income is taxable under the IRS.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #2 on: 06:54 31-Jan-2019 »
Thank you very much for your reply 👍 this is what I was thinking also. Btw no it?s not a Ukrainian company 👍

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #3 on: 09:51 31-Jan-2019 »
I'm working for a US Non Profit, and living here in Ukraine, and I'm paying US taxes, doesn't mean I'm correct, but it's what I'm doing.  Not to hijack the thread, but maybe somebody has a good US tax guy for expats living and working abroad? 

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #4 on: 16:10 31-Jan-2019 »
The answer is not that easy as most of you want it to be...

We need to look into the Ukranian Tax law and see whats Applied when you have a TRP and are doing the Work from Ukrain.
There can also be some double taxlaws that would prevent ukrain from taxing the income you have.

If you want to find the real answer on this question you will need to Consult a tax Lawyer probably.
If your living in ukrain +180 Days a year then my fast answer would be your probably need to pay tax, but also probably overpaying on the US tax
You could probably Registrer as a PE in ukrain and invoice the US Company and then only pay 5% tax and around 20 USD a month in social contribution in ukrain.


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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #5 on: 17:41 31-Jan-2019 »
The answer is not that easy as most of you want it to be...

We need to look into the Ukranian Tax law and see whats Applied when you have a TRP and are doing the Work from Ukrain.
There can also be some double taxlaws that would prevent ukrain from taxing the income you have.

If you want to find the real answer on this question you will need to Consult a tax Lawyer probably.
If your living in ukrain +180 Days a year then my fast answer would be your probably need to pay tax, but also probably overpaying on the US tax
You could probably Registrer as a PE in ukrain and invoice the US Company and then only pay 5% tax and around 20 USD a month in social contribution in ukrain.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #6 on: 10:55 01-Feb-2019 »
FRAUCHE.

I dont know if your answer is that is again stupid ukrain laws :)


But this is the same laws that are applied in most of the world.


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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #7 on: 15:00 01-Feb-2019 »
FRAUCHE.

I dont know if your answer is that is again stupid ukrain laws :)


But this is the same laws that are applied in most of the world.

Its UkrainE with an E on the end. 

Your translator apparently, needs an update.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #8 on: 18:22 01-Feb-2019 »
Pretty sure if you are US citizen and have not revoked your citizenship you should pay US taxes (personal).
That's why some people give up their US citizenship. In order to not have to pay US taxes when they live or work abroad. Or move their money and business outside of US to avoid.
If the company is depositing your paycheck in a US bank acct. also points to this.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #9 on: 11:23 02-Feb-2019 »
FRAUCHE.

I dont know if your answer is that is again stupid ukrain laws :)


But this is the same laws that are applied in most of the world.

Its UkrainE with an E on the end. 

Your translator apparently, needs an update.

Thank you Tim!!!   I should have just said it.... Fracking learn to spell UKRAINE ..... Jesus H Christ.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #10 on: 16:25 02-Feb-2019 »
Yes i see its a very big problem that i spelled ukraine wrong :)

Much bigger then trying to help with an correct answer on a possible complicated problem ;)

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #11 on: 18:31 02-Feb-2019 »
Yes i see its a very big problem that i spelled ukraine wrong :)

Much bigger then trying to help with an correct answer on a possible complicated problem ;)

Slow week here.  We'll pounce on anything.  Taxes are boring.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #12 on: 18:40 02-Feb-2019 »
Yes i see its a very big problem that i spelled ukraine wrong :)

Much bigger then trying to help with an correct answer on a possible complicated problem ;)

Slow week here.  We'll pounce on anything.  Taxes are boring.

taxes suck talking and thinking about them is worse than drinking wood alcohol.

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #13 on: 21:14 02-Feb-2019 »
Yes i see its a very big problem that i spelled ukraine wrong :)

Much bigger then trying to help with an correct answer on a possible complicated problem ;)

Slow week here.  We'll pounce on anything.  Taxes are boring.

taxes suck talking and thinking about them is worse than drinking wood alcohol.

salo makes it all betterer.  and several shots of frosty wodka  :D

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Re: Paying taxes
« Reply #14 on: 02:27 03-Feb-2019 »
Pretty sure if you are US citizen and have not revoked your citizenship you should pay US taxes (personal).
That's why some people give up their US citizenship. In order to not have to pay US taxes when they live or work abroad. Or move their money and business outside of US to avoid.
If the company is depositing your paycheck in a US bank acct. also points to this.

Wonder how hard it would be to regain citizenship?

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