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Expatriate Life => Visa and Immigration => Topic started by: stockplayer on 21:14 15-Aug-2017

Title: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 21:14 15-Aug-2017
Hi,

Has anyone here applied for PR based on their child being a Ukrainian citizen. Most of the posts I have gone thru are based on PR based on marriage.

Both my wife and daughter are citizens of Ukraine.

Thanks
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Reggie on 22:14 15-Aug-2017

Family reunification is basis for permanent residency.

They have a visa law office here (link on home page, I believe).
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 15:51 16-Aug-2017
Went to the OVIR and they said I need to have a proof of my residency in UAE. They want something like a drivers license which has an address on it. Now that's my problem the driver license or the national ID do not have the address.

Does anyone  have any idea or experience with this sort of document.

Thanks

Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Glyn Thomas. on 18:56 16-Aug-2017
I got PR based on my child being Ukrainian - we were not yet married as my divorce hadn't come though.

All went well for us

... the address bit you are hung up on is the same for all TRP and PR applications. They need an address in your home country so they have somewhere to deport you to if your application is unsuccessful.... yes, I am being serious.  This is a soviet hangover.... 8)
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 20:11 16-Aug-2017
I got PR based on my child being Ukrainian - we were not yet married as my divorce hadn't come though.

All went well for us

... the address bit you are hung up on is the same for all TRP and PR applications. They need an address in your home country so they have somewhere to deport you to if your application is unsuccessful.... yes, I am being serious.  This is a soviet hangover.... 8)

My home country is different from my country of residence. If home country is what is required then our ID does have it. What the OVIR said is they need my UAE address. Can you pls explain what sort of legalization or nortary is required for this document.

Thanks
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Ted on 04:22 17-Aug-2017
I got PR based on my child being Ukrainian - we were not yet married as my divorce hadn't come though.

All went well for us

... the address bit you are hung up on is the same for all TRP and PR applications. They need an address in your home country so they have somewhere to deport you to if your application is unsuccessful.... yes, I am being serious.  This is a soviet hangover.... 8)

My home country is different from my country of residence. If home country is what is required then our ID does have it. What the OVIR said is they need my UAE address. Can you pls explain what sort of legalization or nortary is required for this document.

Thanks

Driver's License or Passport from UAE...translated into Ukrainian and notarized. Ask OVIR what TYPE of document they want to see.
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Tiancai on 09:40 17-Aug-2017
My home country is different from my country of residence. If home country is what is required then our ID does have it. What the OVIR said is they need my UAE address. Can you pls explain what sort of legalization or nortary is required for this document.

My guess is you told them you had permanent residence in UAE and entered your address from there in some forms (perhaps when applying for TRP), so now they want your proof of address from there rather than your home country? In that case I'd just tell them you're no longer a resident of UAE and you went back to your home country then came to Ukraine, so they should just accept your proof of address from your native country since that is your permanent address (provide notarized translation of your ID for that).
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Tnic on 11:55 17-Aug-2017
The alternative is a visit to a UAE Consulate to get an Affidavit attesting to your address in UAE.
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 14:38 17-Aug-2017
Thanks Guys.
 
Spoke to the lady in another OVIR and she said my translated passport copy will suffice :) as it has my permanent address.

Have submitted the application for police clearance, that should take till about Wednesday. Also have to get the translation of my child's birth certificate, this will also take about Monday as it has both English and Arabic on it.

Looks like almost all docs are ready. Will update you all once I submit the PR application at the OVIR.

Imran.
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 19:57 22-Aug-2017
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....Will update you all once I submit the PR application at the OVIR.

Imran.

Finally submitted all the docs. Like with most of the members, wife did most of the talking. The lady at the OVIR said it would take about 2-3 months for the process. When wife asked her she said I would have to come back later and get some sort of registration done with regards to the house where wife and her mom and dad are registered.

So here's a summary of the docs I had to submit.
- Application form [ the OVIR lady filled on her PC]
- My passport translated and notarized/legalized [Also serves as an address proof]
- My child's birth certificate translated and notarized/legalized.
- Form #3 from Zhek
- Police Clearance certificate.
- Wife, Wife's Mom and Dad's Ukraine passport due to the home registration [propiska]under their names. They all were present and signed the domestic passport copies and wrote sort off a no objection statement that I can stay in their home.
- I had to write all the names of my blood relations which she used to fill up the form. This had to mention the date of birth and the city and county they are currently residing.
- Payment slip [ amount 179.74] for application.
- 8 photos, 3.5 x 4.5 Matt paper.
- Full copy of my passport. I mean all pages with all my visas and blank pages[ Thought it was strange and tried to question but wife told me shut up 🤐 and she went and got all the pages photocopied]


The lady took my Mil's number and would call her once it's ready. She told my wife that I would have to come back and collect the booklet then go and register my name under the home propiska submitted.

I didn't expect I would have been able to complete this task but am glad it's submitted, will wait for their decision and hopefully they will not reject.

Would like to thank all the members here for their help and posts . Hope my experience and info helps other members.



Imran.









Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Tnic on 13:53 23-Aug-2017
Super!

If PR is anything like TRP, you'll have 10 days after issuance to visit your district's ZHEK (think housing authority) office to register you at an address. 

Everyone registered at that address must also go to ZHEK and sign an agreement for you to be registered there.
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 06:39 28-Jul-2018
Hi Guys,

Update on my PRP...

Got the approval last year and it took almost 3 months. The approval is for a year and just came to Ukraine last week on a Visa D01 which is specifically for Immigration purposes. Went to the OVIR and submitted the documents. The same lady officer we met last year took the application and said we need to contact another office this week. She mentioned there is some change in laws and it may take more than the normal 1 week. Hopefully it gets done before that cuz I have to leave soon.

Will update as soon as I have feedback. Appreciate if you guys have any new information on PRP changes.

Thanks
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Darren Jones on 17:29 31-Jul-2018
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- Payment slip [ amount 179.74] for application.


Hi Imran,

To make the payment in the bank, what did you need? My wife did the payment but today they called and said it needed to be in my name however with the wife paying we had to get her ID number...Woman from the PR application said the person in the bank will know what to do...in my small town this is never the case!

Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 19:16 02-Aug-2018
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- Payment slip [ amount 179.74] for application.


Hi Imran,

To make the payment in the bank, what did you need? My wife did the payment but today they called and said it needed to be in my name however with the wife paying we had to get her ID number...Woman from the PR application said the person in the bank will know what to do...in my small town this is never the case!

These are slips or forms provided by the OVIR personnel and we simply have to go to the bank and make the payment providing them these slips. The lady in the bank asked for my name spelled in Ukrainian so yes it should be in your name  and then took the payment of 350 Hrynvnias 

Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 13:31 03-Aug-2018
Ok guys finally got my PRP card today, feels good after all the hard work and running around to get the right paper work in place.

A BIG Thanks to this forum for all the  useful information.

The final step today was to go to the Immigration Office where all my documents were sent by the OVIR and they took my passport and made me sign couple of forms. They asked me to come back after 2 hours. I went back to the office and it was ready. From here I had to go to the Home registration office [Propiska] with my in-laws. Few forums had to be filled which was done by my wife and all the registered ppl of the home had to be present. I had to sign one form and the lady officer stamped my PRP with the address.

The PRP card is a booklet and not the electronic one, as Mykolayiv still does not have the electronic cards yet and the validity is for 10 years which is stamped at the back of the card.

Hope this information will help those who are still in the process of getting their PRP.


Cheers

Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: julienp on 08:32 05-Aug-2018
The PRP card is a booklet and not the electronic one, as Mykolayiv still does not have the electronic cards yet and the validity is for 10 years which is stamped at the back of the card.
So it is the green booklet ?
Where do you see a validity date ?
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 11:28 05-Aug-2018
The PRP card is a booklet and not the electronic one, as Mykolayiv still does not have the electronic cards yet and the validity is for 10 years which is stamped at the back of the card.
So it is the green booklet ?
Where do you see a validity date ?

Yes it?s the green booklet and there is a stamp on one of the last pages with the date which is 10 years from the issue date. If you are applying in one of the big cities I assume it would be a electronic card.
 
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: Tnic on 19:03 06-Aug-2018
COngrats and thanks for the update!

I start my PR journey in Nov after we return from visiting our daughter and new grand.
Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 11:42 07-Aug-2021
An update on PR...

I realized I had to apply for a renewal of my PR as I crossed 45 while I visited the bank and my PR was not valid although its not expired ! I had to take an appointment after a bit of running around to the OVIR and got the Biometrics done at the Migration Center however they would take 15 days and I have to travel back next week. As per them I have to collect it in person and they would require my thumbprint.

Documents required : 
Old PR booklet
Notary certified translated copy of my passport
800 UAH fees


Anyone been through this renewal process and timelines of receiving the PR card.





Title: Re: PR based on Children.
Post by: stockplayer on 08:52 21-Aug-2021
Ok guys I did end up getting the PR renewed and boy was it in the nick of time. I lost hope but the last day, just before returning back from Ukraine was able to receive it, Phew!!!

FYI the link below provides updates on the status of the application and it's a day or so late in updates.

https://dmsu.gov.ua/en-home/e-services/en-docstate.html

It's the Biometirc card valid for 10 years, though I preferred the old passport looking PR  :)

Applied on 3rd Aug 2021 [ Appointment was given on 29th July ]
Received on 13th Aug 2021

Imran


An update on PR...

I realized I had to apply for a renewal of my PR as I crossed 45 while I visited the bank and my PR was not valid although its not expired ! I had to take an appointment after a bit of running around to the OVIR and got the Biometrics done at the Migration Center however they would take 15 days and I have to travel back next week. As per them I have to collect it in person and they would require my thumbprint.

Documents required : 
Old PR booklet
Notary certified translated copy of my passport
800 UAH fees


Anyone been through this renewal process and timelines of receiving the PR card.