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Title: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: ashflash on 00:37 14-Jan-2018
New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
I have heard there have been some changes to the current system of duty, taxes and clearance for bringing in EU cars into Ukraine  permantly and then registering it in Ukraine,  does anyone know what the new changes and rules are ??? Cheers Ash
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Ron-n-Sveta on 08:05 14-Jan-2018
not sure if this applies to imports but last week i registed a small trailer here and even for a ukraine made trailer i had to have it confirmed of value by a business within 2 minute walking distance. hummm i am sure the police department no gets a kick back  :D
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 10:38 15-Jan-2018
New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
I have heard there have been some changes to the current system of duty, taxes and clearance for bringing in EU cars into Ukraine  permantly and then registering it in Ukraine,  does anyone know what the new changes and rules are ??? Cheers Ash

As reported yet in December 2017 (http://autonews.autoua.net/novosti/17876-verhovnaya-rada-otmenila-do-2022-goda-nds-i-akciz-na-elektromobili.html) Since 1.1.18 all electric cars are imported free of VAT, and any duties. But this is not only about EU, any origins and any age of electric cars are eligible, but only for 1 year. Have not heard yet about any other changes...
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 10:49 15-Jan-2018
not sure if this applies to imports but last week i registed a small trailer here and even for a ukraine made trailer i had to have it confirmed of value by a business within 2 minute walking distance. hummm i am sure the police department no gets a kick back  :D

Did you buy it new or used?
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Ron-n-Sveta on 11:02 15-Jan-2018
vgera the trailer was 6 months old and still under factory warranty. mind you for me it was not about the fee more of the idea and the alot of extra time. vgera I have another question i rather ask in pm if not a problem about something kinda different
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 11:43 15-Jan-2018
vgera the trailer was 6 months old and still under factory warranty. mind you for me it was not about the fee more of the idea and the alot of extra time. vgera I have another question i rather ask in pm if not a problem about something kinda different
Any vehicle first registration is subject to pension fund tax (3-5% depending on the car value), but normally the car value to count percentage of, is taken from a new car purchase invoice or from the customs declaration. Commercial expert value approval is not needed in this case. If you (personally) sell 2 cars or more in one year you will have to pay an income tax 5% of car value. In this case you will be requested to confirm the value by providing an expert evaluation (could differ from your invoice price, mostly to the greater side). But this is all about cars and motorbikes. Trailer sales can be taxed all the other way. So not sure now if they screwed you or it was really necessary to get the value approved. Did you pay any duty or tax based on the value approved?

Feel free to PM if any questions...
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: frank1010 on 12:23 15-Jan-2018
Have had a chat with a friend recently saying that cars upto 2.5 liters engine he imports regularly "as is" as per normal and ordinary taxation/customs. Cars with 2.5l and above he gets partly dismantled in Poland and transported to Ukraine. After taxation and customs the car is being put together again and sold. The more popular option is to bring the car to poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Czech republic, Moldva, etc where the car will be registered in the name of  local company and a notarized statement issued that the ukrainian national is the driver of the car. Thus no taxes and customs apply and the ukrainian can drive upto one year, the leave the country for a day and the 1 year period is reset. Even police officers and detectives here in my city in Ukraine drive cars with polish and latvian number plates.....
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 13:36 15-Jan-2018
the ukrainian can drive upto one year

Controvercial statement. All this "europlates" scheme is only possible due to unwill of the authorities to solve the issue once forever. It is a clear violation of Customs code rules, which may lead to serious financial sanctions.

Even police officers and detectives here in my city in Ukraine drive cars with polish and latvian number plates.....

I won't be surprised if the same guys employ drugs dealers and pimps round the corner. This is never a sign that what they do is legal.  Snake never bites its tale. Same relates to judjes, state prosecutors, deputies etc.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: BobLviv on 14:50 15-Jan-2018
Soon, I might be in a similar situation where I have to 'import' my EU registered car. Still, I am on a TRP, but that may be soon changing too, to PRP. Hence, the import of the car.
Still, is there anybody who could confirm or add to the official/legal information. With all respect, but I get the feeling there is a bit of "hear-say" here. If not, please, explain or add to the topic. It is more than essential, and without doubt not only to me, though ;)
Thanks in advance. That's what this forum is for and makes it strong, isn't? ;)
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 18:13 15-Jan-2018

Still, is there anybody who could confirm or add to the official/legal information.

Bob, formulate your questions more clearly and I will answer to the best of my knowledge. If you treat me as a credible source of course...

I am sure you have read all the previous threads on the matter...
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: frank1010 on 21:56 15-Jan-2018
Soon, I might be in a similar situation where I have to 'import' my EU registered car. Still, I am on a TRP, but that may be soon changing too, to PRP. Hence, the import of the car.
Still, is there anybody who could confirm or add to the official/legal information. With all respect, but I get the feeling there is a bit of "hear-say" here. If not, please, explain or add to the topic. It is more than essential, and without doubt not only to me, though ;)
Thanks in advance. That's what this forum is for and makes it strong, isn't? ;)

With TRP you are entitled to drive your foreign registered car in Ukraine during the validity of your TRP (1 year). When you get your PRP bring your household tax free to Ukraine which includes a car to my knowledge.... That should be done within 6 months after PRP was granted (what the customs people told me at the border).
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Carlusha on 00:35 16-Jan-2018
Soon, I might be in a similar situation where I have to 'import' my EU registered car. Still, I am on a TRP, but that may be soon changing too, to PRP. Hence, the import of the car.
Still, is there anybody who could confirm or add to the official/legal information. With all respect, but I get the feeling there is a bit of "hear-say" here. If not, please, explain or add to the topic. It is more than essential, and without doubt not only to me, though ;)
Thanks in advance. That's what this forum is for and makes it strong, isn't? ;)

With TRP you are entitled to drive your foreign registered car in Ukraine during the validity of your TRP (1 year). When you get your PRP bring your household tax free to Ukraine which includes a car to my knowledge.... That should be done within 6 months after PRP was granted (what the customs people told me at the border).

I understood TRP to comprise 2 one year periods? If so, can the vehicle remain in Ukraine during the change from the first year to the second year TRP? And again upon change from second TRP to final PRP?

Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: frank1010 on 07:06 16-Jan-2018
When you renew your TRP you are not required to leave the country hence I presume your car can also stay. I am not sure if TRP is limited to 2 x 1 year periods.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Carlusha on 08:29 16-Jan-2018

I am not sure if TRP is limited to 2 x 1 year periods.


I thought 2 TRPs was a prerequisite to earning one's PRP. Apologies if I am suffering from a befuddled brain.

Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 09:22 16-Jan-2018
When you renew your TRP you are not required to leave the country hence I presume your car can also stay. I am not sure if TRP is limited to 2 x 1 year periods.

Your migration status is regulated by migration authorities and legislation. Your car status is regulated by customs authorities and legislation. They do mot interrelate in most cases. The fact that you are granted another TRP or PRP does not automatically cansel your obligation to remove temporarily inported car within 1 year from the date of entry. So, to close the preferential temporary import procedure your car has either to leave the country or, its status needs to be changed (either plain import with all taxes, or, possibly, tax free import for those moving from abroad. the latter does not contradict the customs rules but as long as it is not clearly allowed the official customs position needs to be clarified yet).
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: BobLviv on 11:30 16-Jan-2018
Still, is there anybody who could confirm or add to the official/legal information.
Bob, formulate your questions more clearly and I will answer to the best of my knowledge. If you treat me as a credible source of course...
I am sure you have read all the previous threads on the matter...

Thanks for your help. Of course I am willing to listen/read any information hereto :)
With TRP I'm still a foreigner allowed to drive my EU registered car for a period of 12 months. Just crossing the border will reset that time period again.
As soon as I might receive my PRP, this will change, I understood. As a (new) citizen my privately owned EU registered car shall either be imported and UKR registered, or I have to cross the border every 7 days to continue that foreign registration. Correct?
Actually, moving into the country permanently, I can import my household including the car tax free, as I understood.
The main additional point that I found out with that is the driver's license. Having an UKR registered car after the import, I do need to have an UKR driver's license too. Ukrainian is not a language I am able to speak nor read, but I understand to legally obtain the driver license, I do need to pass an exam, in Ukrainian.
So, all in all, I am following all these kind of topics with great interest to see what my options could and will be if I would accept a PRP.
Well, let me leave it with this for now ;)
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Carlusha on 12:16 16-Jan-2018

As a (new) citizen .....


No Bob. You would continue as a foreigner with the right to reside permanently in Ukraine. You need to retain and renew your existing passport as required. Your passport and the TRP/PRP go hand-in-hand while you are exiting/entering Ukraine or need to provide identification to any interested Ukrainian authorities.



Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 13:10 16-Jan-2018

With TRP I'm still a foreigner allowed to drive my EU registered car for a period of 12 months. Just crossing the border will reset that time period again.
As soon as I might receive my PRP, this will change, I understood. As a (new) citizen resident my privately owned EU registered car shall either be imported and UKR registered, or I have to cross the border every 7 days to continue that foreign registration. Correct?

YES!
except the remark also mentioned earlier by Дідусь. You remain (I believe) the sitizen of your former country but now you are treated as a RESIDENT here, thus loosing all the non-resident preferrences

Actually, moving into the country permanently, I can import my household including the car tax free, as I understood.

YES!
6 months from the date of your PRP issue you have the right to once import a car, a trailer (if goes along with the mentioned car) and 1 set of any houshold item tax free. see my post with Clause 374 translation  (http://www.expatua.com/forum/index.php?topic=16505.30) for detailled conditions. Still a question remains: does it have to come all at a time, together with your car or you can bring the car today, then your favourite armchair tomorrow and a kitchen furniture the day after? No clear answer inside the Customs Code.

The main additional point that I found out with that is the driver's license. Having an UKR registered car after the import, I do need to have an UKR driver's license too. Ukrainian is not a language I am able to speak nor read, but I understand to legally obtain the driver license, I do need to pass an exam, in Ukrainian.

Also discussed HERE  (http://www.expatua.com/forum/index.php?topic=8981.15) very detailly.

Article 30.  (http://zakon5.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/340-93-%D0%BF)
Посвідчення водія, що належить особі, яка переїжджає на постійне місце проживання в Україну, дійсне на території України протягом 60 днів з дати видачі органами та підрозділами ДМС документів на постійне проживання в Україні і після цього підлягає заміні. Заміна таких посвідчень проводиться після проходження особою медичного огляду та складення теоретичного і практичного іспитів.

DL, that belongs to the person, who moves into Ukrtaine for permanent residency, is valid on the territory of Ukraine for 60 days since the date of issue of the document allowing the person to stay permanently in Ukraine, AFTER WHICH it has to be changed. The change of such DL is done after the person passes medical examination, theory and driving tests.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Carlusha on 13:26 16-Jan-2018

DL, that belongs to the person, who moves into Ukraine for permanent residency, is valid on the territory of Ukraine for 60 days since the date of issue of the document allowing the person to stay permanently in Ukraine, AFTER WHICH it has to be changed. The change of such DL is done after the person passes a medical examination, theory and driving tests.


This should, I believe, dump a dry squib amongst the PRP members.   :o ::)
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: VGera on 13:52 16-Jan-2018
Written what's written, but in most cases the result depends on how it's read. That's usual for Ukrainian legislation and procedures. You need to be persuasive talking to officials. If you just start asking, most likely their answers will be based on the way comfortable for them, but not for you.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Ron-n-Sveta on 16:15 16-Jan-2018
iirc  i heard someone on this forum saying within 60-90 of prp no tests for DL. not long ago think maybe ak
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: BobLviv on 07:00 17-Jan-2018
Thanks VGera and Дідусь for your reactions and information so far. Great help :)
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: AkMike on 09:47 17-Jan-2018
iirc  i heard someone on this forum saying within 60-90 of prp no tests for DL. not long ago think maybe ak

 I've heard that also but I got mine thru the backdoor.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Ted on 16:01 17-Jan-2018
iirc  i heard someone on this forum saying within 60-90 of prp no tests for DL. not long ago think maybe ak

 I've heard that also but I got mine thru the backdoor.

Does your guy know the guy that my guy knows? Or is it that other guy who knows that guy who knows him?
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: AkMike on 20:18 17-Jan-2018
No, I doubt it.. My guy's from this oblast not that oblast.

 He's a blast!  :D
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Jay on 10:18 01-Jun-2018
Just found this -- thanks to all who contributed -- any updates more info appreciated. :)

Maybe merge threads???
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Jay on 23:13 07-Jun-2018
The situation continues evolving !



Ukraine may introduce "old age" tax on used cars imports


"The bill stipulates a differentiated excise, when registering a car, as in the case with an 'old age' tax. The older a car is, the greater is the excise," he said. The MP has added that if none of the draft laws are adopted, the lawmakers may extend law No. 1389-19 (bill 3251 of November 7, 2015), setting preferential rates for excise duty on used car imports until December 31, 2018.

Read more on UNIAN: https://economics.unian.info/10145042-ukraine-may-introduce-old-age-tax-on-used-cars-imports.html


Read more on UNIAN: https://economics.unian.info/10145042-ukraine-may-introduce-old-age-tax-on-used-cars-imports.html
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Kord on 22:31 23-Jun-2021
Sorry about my attempt at reviving this post. (Am I necro-posting?)
Say a PRP person wanted to drive a US plated vehicle in to Ukraine via Poland or Bulgaria for example. Couldn't said PRP holder just drive as a tourist for a while?

Like if PRP holder was living in Poland near UA border and wanted to visit Lviv by car for a month then scoot back to Poland. Does this cause vehicle issues with PoPo?
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: BobLviv on 07:23 24-Jun-2021
Sorry about my attempt at reviving this post. (Am I necro-posting?)
Say a PRP person wanted to drive a US plated vehicle in to Ukraine via Poland or Bulgaria for example. Couldn't said PRP holder just drive as a tourist for a while?
Like if PRP holder was living in Poland near UA border and wanted to visit Lviv by car for a month then scoot back to Poland. Does this cause vehicle issues with PoPo?
Admitting that it has been a long time ago for me and rules might have been altered again by now, I think the answer is already in your question ;)
"PRP holder just drive as a tourist" Can a PRP (aka a registered resident) be a tourist at the same time?
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Ted on 04:44 25-Jun-2021

 Can a PRP (aka a registered resident) be a tourist at the same time?


To answer this question we will break the internet.
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: Kord on 20:37 29-Jun-2021
Oh yeah.. sorry, didn't think it through properly
Title: Re: New rules and Taxes for importing cars into UKRAINE from Abroad 1.1.18
Post by: AkMike on 15:55 04-Jul-2021
I'll bet it can' be done. They wouldn't let me bring my motorcycle in because of the PRP stamp in my passport.