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Russia Invades... => Russia Invades => Topic started by: charles on 20:27 24-Feb-2022

Title: Help?
Post by: charles on 20:27 24-Feb-2022
Can anyone offer a lift from Kyiv to western ukraine to British male, Ukrainian wife and child? I expect not, but worth a try. Nearly 30years in the country and never believed I'd see this day  :'(
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: Kord on 15:01 26-Feb-2022
Sorry no where near you. Yes, it is very strange times.
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: David Rochlin on 17:59 26-Feb-2022
This isn't old, but I guess decisions are hour by hour in Kyiv now, and the tank attack was suspended yesterday, due to the possibility of negotiations or, reinforcements needed by Russia, depending upon who is asked:
Trains might continue to run with long waits and free tickets:
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/30346776-women-and-children-first-policy-in-place-in-kyiv-for-trains-leaving-the-city-as-russian-forces-approach#:~:text=I%27ve%20arrived%20from%20the%20east%20to%20Kyiv%27s%20main,are%20still%20operating%2C%20but%20they%20have%20long%20delays

Title: Re: Help?
Post by: AkMike on 21:55 26-Feb-2022
The fuel supply line was blown up so tanks and APC's are out of fuel. For the ones coming in from the west. They're even trying to get fuel and paying at the pumps out of pocket. Some are just walking back east to home, cold and hungry.
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: jbenet on 07:48 11-Mar-2022
No evacuation trains?

Here was our experience from Odesa
https://www.think.cz/english/politics/our-life-as-refugees
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: speibl on 11:05 28-Mar-2022
Quite a lot of UA-refugees here around Burgas (BG). Not a bad area, especially in case children envolved. Accomodation mostly now in Sunny Beach or other tourist areas, however, because appartments for rent in Burgas city all occupied. Refugees coming via Romania, from South of UA. But also from Charkiw.
Title: Returning?
Post by: jbenet on 10:25 04-Jul-2022
Just asking the dudes here, this forum kinda died, but still a good source of opinions of the wise owls...

We're in EU at the moment, thinking of returning in August (Odesa). Foolishness or not? Getting tired of refugee life, missing our home. Wife with two boys, her parents and sister have been there the whole time. Not sure if anyone has returned or not... thanks in advance
Title: Re: Returning?
Post by: julienp on 09:51 06-Jul-2022
We're in EU at the moment, thinking of returning in August (Odesa). Foolishness or not? Getting tired of refugee life, missing our home. Wife with two boys, her parents and sister have been there the whole time. Not sure if anyone has returned or not... thanks in advance
We are in the same situation, staying in France with my parents... But we would like to come back to Kyiv sooner than later.
It's hard to make a decision, not being sure if kids will be safe or not
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: AkMike on 19:04 07-Jul-2022
Just IMO,( but I've been here the whole time) The entire country can be hit with rockets at any time from Mordor, The Black Sea or Belarus. Today Odesa area was once again hit with rockets.  Personally I'd avoid  that area. Small towns and villages w/o infrastructure that they'd want to hit, military bases or warehouses or government buildings would be better.  They've hit my town several times since the beginning of this invasion. The last time they managed to hit the bridge across the Dniper. The railroad is down but light vehicle traffic has resumed. The other attacks were very minor with no deaths and light damage. I was in Lviv making a supply run for the local army guys and saw 5 missiles hit there about 1km from my hotel. I got some fairly good photos from the fire escape.
 Until it's over There is no where that I'd consider safe.
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: jbenet on 10:38 19-Jul-2022
Chatted with Paul Niland and he says there are a few expats he knows that returned to Kyiv, but he says Odesa might be a different story as the Ruzzians are constantly dreaming of "liberating" it. Father in law told me on our recent holiday together (to Greece) that there are greater chances of getting hit by cars on the road, that in 5 years more Ukrainians have died in traffic/pedestrian/tram accidents than the whole of the war so far... not sure the accuracy, but he might have a point. He was at sea until 2 weeks ago, and says he adjusted to the sirens pretty quickly. His hometown of Vinnytsia was hit while we were on holiday. Okean Elzy is coming to our EU town later in August, we might catch that show and head home.

Russia will collapse this year I bet, or at least unfold into a civil war. It won't be getting better for them at all, and all they have left is hitleristic terror attacks...

thanks for the feedbacks!
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: julienp on 22:00 20-Jul-2022
Russia will collapse this year I bet, or at least unfold into a civil war. It won't be getting better for them at all, and all they have left is hitleristic terror attacks...
The Russians are doing the same mistake as the Nazi did with their V2, targeting civilians instead of military assets... While the Ukrainians use their ammo on military targets
Title: Re: Help?
Post by: AkMike on 19:40 21-Jul-2022
I suspect that this war will drag on for quite a while. IMO only, a year or more. But that's only what my crystal ball is saying. As far as  the number of deaths. It's in the 10's of thousands. I doubt that there will ever be an accurate count.